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I have issues. And I have neeeeeeds.



I was actually pumped to hear the S3 spoilers about the boys meeting up with two new female characters, because, hi! Femslash for the show! More het! There is no downside here. I was even, more the fool me, kinda hoping that the female hunter character might have visible strength. I'm not asking for a weightlifter here, but maybe the physique of a runner or a swimmer. I was even thinking that maybe Kripke and co might take the opportunity to incorporate more people of color into the show. (And yeah, I know that SPN is actually more diverse than most of TV.)

Yeah, um, not so much. And I understand, it's TV, they're playing to Peoria, whatever. We're in a country where America Ferrera and Sara Ramirez are considered fat. It's a TV culture where the average-looking guy is always special and gets the hot girl, and the reverse (like Ugly Betty) is revolutionary. That's how we roll.

But y'know what? I'm still cranky. I want to see more characters like Lenore or Ellen. I want to see a female hunter who looks like she could fuck your shit up and then go eat some pie. I want to see Sarah Connor doing pullups on her bed. I want belly-padding and wide hips and full cheeks and big butts, more cushion for the pushin', women built for comfort and not for speed.

I want OFC fic! Smut with Dean with curved women whose bellies and thighs are soft enough to cushion his head, who get doublechins when they giggle and who don't fuck around with salad. A big, bold Earth Mama who wears bright colors and probably has to stand on an applebox to make out with either of them, but who won't take any shit. A Rubenesque lush lady who wears red lipstick and high heels and has awesome cleavage, and who struts over and buys Sam tequila. Mmmmm.
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Date: 2007-09-21 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derryderrydown.livejournal.com
OH, GOD, YES!

Date: 2007-09-21 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evenfers.livejournal.com
what is it with all these kickass!characters with matchstick upper arms? (Buffy, I'm looking at YOU, though Joss built in his own slayer-strength cop-out, and Zoe makes up for A LOT)

:mmm, Zoe:

Date: 2007-09-21 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] star-dancer54.livejournal.com
I AGREE. My sister and I have a term for those scrawny things that are supposed to be in nowadays - stick insects. I'd be damned happier if there WERE more curvy women on there, 'cause god knows it's just not right. *nodnod*

Also, this: A Rubenesque lush lady who wears red lipstick and high heels and has awesome cleavage, and who struts over and buys Sam tequila. makes me happy in my pants and reminds me of a series of books that I happen to love XD

Date: 2007-09-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithette.livejournal.com
I want to see more characters like Lenore or Ellen. I want to see a female hunter who looks like she could fuck your shit up and then go eat some pie.

I just got this mental image of some bad-ass woman saving Dean's ass, giving him a hand up off the floor, and then saying "Hey, I could really go for some pie... wanna join me?" *snickers*

I want to see Sarah Connor doing pullups on her bed.

Oh HELL YEAH! Now she would make one bad-ass hunter! (and a plot bunny was born... if a woman, on her own, was going to spend her life hunting evil, wouldn't she want to be in really awesome condition? C'mon, Kripke!)

How about this? Sam and Dean are in a bar... Dean notices two women in particular... one cute little thing, flirting with him big time... and one watching him, sitting at her table, nursing her drink... a little older, rough around the edges, lean, strong, maybe a couple scars. Would make an interesting story (and I can't believe I'm thinking het lol)

I want OFC fic! Smut with Dean with curved women whose bellies and thighs are soft enough to cushion his head, who get doublechins when they giggle and who don't fuck around with salad. A big, bold Earth Mama who wears bright colors and probably has to stand on an applebox to make out with either of them, but who won't take any shit. A Rubenesque lush lady who wears red lipstick and high heels and has awesome cleavage, and who struts over and buys Sam tequila. Mmmmm.

Now, that would be some het I'd be willing to read! *snickers*

Date: 2007-09-21 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unrund.livejournal.com
Yes, exactly! [although german television minus the soaps are actually showing real people who are not looking as if they are starving half to death.]

Date: 2007-09-21 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hucknclem.livejournal.com
I LOVE this post. Yes please on all of this, including the OFC fic, because that's just fun *contemplates the possibilities*! :)

Date: 2007-09-21 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona1347.livejournal.com
SO MUCH WORD I CANNOT POSSIBLY ARTICULATE IT IN HUMAN LANGUAGE.

*leaps all over you* And not just because I could then more easily Mary Sue myself.

Oh god, plz consider unlocking this so I can link to it?

Date: 2007-09-21 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
I'm a slaaave for you. *grin* Duly unlocked.

Dude, yeah, that's definitely part of it. But I also kinda think it makes sense. Sam would do good with a woman he felt like he couldn't break, an anti-Jessica with dark hair and hips and belly and glasses who majored in astrophysics or something. (And no, I totally didn't have a Sam/OFC plotbunny with a large and in charge nerdy professional skeptic, ala Ghosthunters.) And Dean NEEDS a woman who properly appreciates food.

Date: 2007-09-21 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephanometra.livejournal.com
Smut with Dean with curved women whose bellies and thighs are soft enough to cushion his head, who get doublechins when they giggle and who don't fuck around with salad. A big, bold Earth Mama who wears bright colors and probably has to stand on an applebox to make out with either of them, but who won't take any shit. A Rubenesque lush lady who wears red lipstick and high heels and has awesome cleavage, and who struts over and buys Sam tequila.

This entire paragraph turns me on a ridiculous amount and I am genuinely trying to write at least one of those scenarios in my head right now.

Date: 2007-09-21 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona1347.livejournal.com
Yesssss. YES. Just...yes.

OR. A 40-ish, experienced, comfortable-in-her-sexuality Earth Goddess who takes a barely-20yo Dean to her generous bosum and feeds him home-cooked pie and cookies before fucking him blind in her huge, sandlewood-smelling feather-bed.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] defenestration.livejournal.com
You absolutely made me smile.

Seriously, people always blink in shock when they find out that I'm as big a slut as Dean. "But you're... chubby." *eyeroll*

GOLLY GEE, CHUBBY CHICKS HAVE SEX DRIVES? THEY CAN GET LAID?

You win today!

Date: 2007-09-21 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuhekabir.livejournal.com
Argh, you just gave me a mental picture...good one. :)

Date: 2007-09-21 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
OH yes. That would be awesome. And Dean kinda quietly tweaking out because he's not sure about this woman trying to take care of him, but he's all raw sharp edges from Sam and John tearing at each other, and he's rangy and always HUNGRY. Hungry for food, hungry for sex, hungry for quiet and a warm bed and a lot of things he can't name. And she kind of becomes this temporary sanctuary that Dean doesn't really trust at all.

That would be so awesome.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona1347.livejournal.com
PRECISELY. He ultimately lets the mothering slide because a) he's young and not as angry-defensive as he is "now" and b) the sexual aspect of the whole thing kind of makes it okay in his head to let her care-take.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Right? I mean, where are the fat bottomed girls who make the rocking world go 'round?

(I need me some damn Ellen icons.)

Date: 2007-09-21 04:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] titti
From the moment I saw the two female additions, I've been saying that my nine year old daughter could kick their ass and still have time to go play. I would have loved someone like Martha on Dr. Who or even Gwen (whom I don't like as a character) on Torchwood, but then those are Brit shows.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beanside.livejournal.com
How's this:

Another day, another round of haunting the library. It didn't really bother him, Sam thought. Though it was a little annoying that neither Dean nor Dad would do it.

Sure, get a guy outa hell, get your brother's deal revoked, and you still have to deal with the locals, and their shitty, dusty fucking records. No love.

Worse, they were in Texas during the summer, and the library's air conditioning was on the blink. Sam walked up to the desk, putting on his best smile. "I'm sorry to bother you, ma'am," he murmured at the elderly woman behind the desk. "I'm looking for the microfilm for the Hondo Anvil Herald for 1965."

"Oh dear, I'm afraid Lupeta has that year. She's over there. You an get it when she's done."

Sam headed in the direction of the woman's vague gesture, and finally caught sight of the woman in front of the reader. She was obviously of Mexican descent, but there was more to it than that, an odd cant of her eyes, a wave to her black hair. Worst of all was the body--lush, and ripe, and totally not at all what he normally went for, but he found himself responding just the same.

As though she felt him watching, she looked up, pinning him with dark eyes, and scowling.

For the first time, Sam wished he had Dean's confidence with girls. He'd never tell it to his brother, but Jessica had pursued him. They'd gone out for the first time because she told him they were going to, and his ass better be ready at seven.

She was looking at him expectantly, and Sam forced his usual bullshit smile. "Hi, when you're done, can I take a look at that?"


Date: 2007-09-21 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topaz119.livejournal.com
heh. In the tangle of WiPs on my flash drive, there is one where something ancient and powerful's cursed Dean and Missouri sends them to someone she's heard of, a healer who lives on a mountain in North Carolina and who is most definitely not anorexic looking. And there might possibly be sex magick to uncurse Dean and Sam might need to be there, too. Purely to keep Dean grounded, you understand. Medically necessary. *koff*

so, uh, yeah. What you said. =)

Date: 2007-09-21 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
... I want this now, damn it. Dean and his tired self getting some slow, sweet sexual healing from a woman twice his age who smokes pot and has an herb garden and smells good. And he can sleep all he wants on her couch, under the throws she crocheted while she bakes and knits and hums.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyjanelly.livejournal.com
I've only seen the CW trailers, but dude.

Long hair is such a liability. And twiggy girls don't kick anybody's ass.

I remember on Rescue Me, when they were getting a girl in the station and the boys were making all this fuss about not trusting her with their lives and I was like "What's the big deal? If she passes the physical tests, she can do the job." but the girl fire-fighter had upper arms the size of my wrist and I wouldn't have wanted her carrying me anywhere.

I want to see girls who look like me on tv. Sigh.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona1347.livejournal.com
*flails around*

And sometimes! He goes there and she feeds him and he falls asleep on that couch and there's no sex at all and he'd feel weird about that except that he sleeps SO GOOD there that he wakes up all stupid and slow and has to get at least halfway through the ginormous mug of strong coffee she shoves into his hands as he leaves to go pick up Sam from school before his eyes will open all the way.

*nodnodnodnodnodnod*

Date: 2007-09-21 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Dude, Joss won points for Zoe, and then lost them for River. Enough with the tiny childlike women warriors, Joss, your libido is showing.

Mm, Zoe, indeed. That's a gorgeous woman.

Date: 2007-09-21 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
That just seriously made me clutch my chest and go "!!!!"

Date: 2007-09-21 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romp.livejournal.com
Put Zoe on the show! That's not too much to ask. Or give her her own show.
*nods*

Date: 2007-09-21 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
SIP LOVE! Speaking of awesome women. *grin*
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