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Title: Of Bastard Saints
Authors: [livejournal.com profile] nilchance and [livejournal.com profile] beanside
Rating: Adult
Disclaimer: We make no claim of ownership on the Brothers and Daddy Winchester. No infringement is intended, no money is made.
Author Notes: Set after the episode "Devil's Trap."
WARNINGS: Character maiming, violence, more angst than you can shake a stick at, WIP.



After the gremlin, John had let Sam take over the driving, catching a few hours of sleep while they drove. It was just before dawn when Sam poked him. "Dad? Something up ahead."

John came awake with no pause between sleep and alert. "Where?" His eyes narrowed. "Oh, hell. It's Katya, and her crew."

"The ones who saw Dean? Maybe they can-"

"No," John said sharply. "They can't. Follow my lead, and don't answer any questions. I'll explain once we're clear of them."

"Why are we stopping, then?"

John raked a hand through his hair, looking so much like Dean in his frustration that it made Sam's breath catch. "Because if one of them looks up and sees us, it'll be suspicious if we don't stop."

"Oh." Sam pulled the car to a stop, and John opened the window, giving Katya a practiced smile.

She strode over, all tanned skin and loose-limbed grace. Same Katya that Sam remembered from when he was a kid, with her crooked smile and new gray starting at her temples. "John, good to see you. And is that little Sammy? Jesus, I'm getting old."

John offered his hand through the window, and she shook it. Then she reached past to offer Sam her hand, her shake warm and firm. "How do you think I feel?" John said. "Boy's taller than me."

"You're about a day behind Dean," Katya said bluntly. "Was kinda surprised to see him alone, to be honest. He never leaves you two be unless something's wrong."

John shrugged. "I'm not as fast as I was. With the gates of hell opening in Lawrence, we figured one of us should be there."

She nodded, still eyeing him. Over her shoulder, Sam saw Jericho lope over and winced inside. If the ex-con got too close to the van, odds were good that Dad would just shoot him. They'd never gotten along after that machete fight Jericho and Dean got into while Sam was in high school. "Glad to hear it," Katya said, her voice dangerously even. "Because you know, a lot of us were worried that it was like Amanda all over again."

"Yeah, I figured. But you know Dean."

She nodded. "Yeah." She reached into the pack at her hip. "He left these behind."

John stared at the two blood encrusted daggers, then took them through the window with a tight smile. "Ill be sure to deliver them. And remind the boy about taking care of equipment."

Katya looked at Jericho and sighed, then leaned in the window a little. "John, I'm gonna say this, and you know I think the world of Dean. Get to him quick, before someone who knows him but won't cover his ass sees him."

"What do you mean?"

Katya flipped her short hair out of her eyes. "He's not Dean. Not the Dean I know. Close, but... off. Wrong. And the way he went after that hydra- Jesus. He buried the daggers in its ass and used them as step stools."

"Seriously?" Sam blurted.

"Like he thought he was Lara fucking Croft. Just stood up there and unloaded about forty rounds in its heart, with the heads snapping at him the whole time. Dean's good, but-" Katya broke off, rubbing her eyes tiredly. "Just get to him. People are starting to talk."

John nodded. "Thank you. You need any help?"

"Nah. Fucking zombies. We'll be here all day between shooting and burning. You have more important things to do." She gave John a smile. "Tell him I said hello. And take care of him. He's one of the good ones."

John smiled. "Thanks, Katya."

Sam pulled out smoothly and continued down the highway.

After a few dozen miles had passed, John sat up a little straighter. "There's a rest stop at the scenic overlook in five miles. Pull in there. "

Sam nodded, not sure he liked the faintly grim note to his father's voice.

As soon as the van stopped, John stepped out, walking over to the railing, looking out at the valley.

"Dad?" Sam followed him warily, peering at his father's face. He couldn't read John's expression, but between them, that was nothing new.

"After her mother's death, Sinclair started killing humans," John said starkly. "At first, it was murderers, rapists, pedophiles. I'll be honest. No one cared. Hell, a lot of us were sorry we didn't have the time or energy to do it. Then, it became drunk drivers, or domestic disputes. Both parties in a domestic dispute."

"She became a serial killer," Sam said.

"More or less. We finally had to take action, since the police were getting edgy. Caleb got in a spot of trouble for being in the same area as Sinclair just after she'd killed again. Elkins, Bobby, Dean and I went out to find her-to take her down. I found her first." John looked at the ground. "She was pregnant."

Sam sucked in a hard breath.

Not very, just that first little bulge of the stomach. I couldn't do it. All I could remember was how protective of your mother I was, and how fiercely she'd loved you, even before you were born. How Mary would've done anything to make a safe world for you and for your brother. Amanda was making that safe world. One bullet at a time, she was making it.

"Sinclair was gone, out of her mind. Just... nothing of the Amanda I knew left. Like the only think keeping her sane was her mother, and with her gone, she'd gone over the edge. She kicked my ass, and was about to put a bullet in my head when Dean showed up."

"Dean?" Sam echoed.

John nodded, his expression distant and haunted. "His face when he saw her holding a gun on me... I never wanted to see him look like that again. He didn't hesitate. Put a bullet right between her eyes. Elkins saw the whole thing. He told me I was going to have to keep a leash on Dean, because otherwise, if I went down, he'd blow up like Sinclair."

Protective anger flared up unexpectedly in Sam, making him bristle. "Elkins was an asshole. That's such a load of shit."

John shook his head. "I wasn't so sure. So, I started thinking. I figured I'd die in the attempt to kill Belial. I didn't want to take Dean down with me. But there was you. I knew you weren't going to be a hunter, even then. So I aimed every ounce of Dean's protective streak at you. Figured you weren't going to die before either of us."

"You make it sound like he was just another thing to fix," Sam said.

"I did what I felt was right," John returned.

Sam paced away, then came back, eyes dark with anger. "Jesus, is that all we are to you? Pawns to move the way you see fit? You see something you don't like, you brainwash him, make it better?"

"That isn't the way it-" John started, temper rising.

"Jesus, Dad," Sam continued, not even pausing. "No wonder Dean's running from you-"

John felt something in him snap. "Fine. How about what you've done to him?"

"What do you mean?" Sam blinked, backing up a step. "I haven't- if you don't remember, you're the one who left him to go on your hunting trip. I'm the one who stayed with him this last-"

"What did Dean do to you?" John bit off, moving into Sam's space. "As far as I know, he was always there for you, on your side. Staying up all night to help you piece together your past schooling so you could apply to college. Cheered you on, and drove you to fucking Stanford, even though it killed him to see you go."

"Yeah. And you told me never to come back," Sam snarled.

"Yeah, I did. And that was fine. You were safer away from me, anyhow," John growled. "But Dean. That boy loves you. Thinks you hung the moon. We split up so he could take the west side of the country, so he could be closer to you just in case you needed something."

"I-"

"And every few months, I would get a call from him, 'Sammy got honor roll, Sam did this, or that. Sam's got a girl.' And there was always something about those calls that bothered me. So when he said, "I'm going to visit Sam," I figured it was a good time to find out."

Sam shut up. He just stood there, stone faced, knowing what was coming and hating his father a little for each word.

John gave him a sour smile. "So, I got to Palo Alto and I looked for the Impala. Big car, college town, shouldn't have had problems. Couldn't find the damned thing anywhere. So I followed you, in your cab. Fifteen miles outside of city limits. To a diner. Where you didn't even have the cab leave. And ten minutes later, you were on your way back to your apartment and your girlfriend."

"It wasn't like that-"

"And then, a few months later, I'm up Bobby's way, and Dean shows up looking like shit. He was coming to ask Bobby to keep an eye on you for a few weeks. It took a lot of tequila, but I finally got the story. You didn't want to hear from him, wanted him out of your life," John thundered. "And even then, Dean didn't blame you. He loves you, would kill or die for you, and you treated him like he was fucking contagious."

"Fuck you, it wasn't-"

"But then the demon turns up and suddenly, Dean is useful again," John said sarcastically. "Sammy, you're my boy, and I love you, but sometimes, you're a selfish son of a bitch."

John didn't see the punch coming, but he sure felt it. It caught him square in the jaw and rocked him back until only his grip on the railing kept him upright.

Sam threw another punch, all temper, but his father deflected it. He didn't hit back, Sam realized. He just kept blocking or deflecting, letting Sam use all his energy. It was infuriating. Without thinking, Sam pulled his power and shoved his father, trying to get that patronizing frown off his face. Instead it sent John toppling over, the prosthetic making a little rattle as he landed on his ass.

Oh. God. Sam felt his heart wrench sideways, looking at his father in the dirt. Sam stared down for a moment, then he turned to walk away a few steps, to make his heart slow down and stop hurting like he was dying.

The worst of it is that his father hadn't said anything he hadn't thought himself. That was why you were so pissed, he thought. Because he was right.

John tensed as Sam came back towards him, wondering if he should be gearing up for round two. He loved his son, but if Sam did that again, he was going to put him over his knee, twenty three or not. Then he saw the tears in Sam's eyes.

"You're right," Sam said softly. "I treated him like shit. I told Jess you were an alcoholic. I told her Dean was a drifter."

After a long moment, John nodded grudgingly. "I know."

Sam blinked, startled, and rubbed quickly at his face. "You knew? How?"

John smiled tightly. "Jess told me."

Sam glared.

John shrugged. "When Dean says you're serious about a girl, I'll be damned if I'm not going to meet my daughter in-law. She was a good woman."

Sam sighed. "Yeah. She was." He offered his hand to help his father up, absently brushing the dirt off his father's jacket.

John took it, coming to his feet and meeting Sam's eyes. Word by painful word, he managed, "Sam, I've made a lot of mistakes. And I'm not proud of them. I should never have said the things I did to you when you left. I'm sorry I was an ass. At the last second, I just... panicked. All I could think was how much I'd miss you, and that I couldn't protect you, and I don't do well with panic."

Sam blinked rapidly, swallowing, getting himself back under control as he stared at John's jacket. "I'm sorry I believed you when you said not to come back."

John smiled sadly. "Me too. For what it's worth, I know I'm a selfish son of a bitch, too. What I've never understood is how, with all that, I got Dean."

"Because." Sam looked down at his shoes. It was ridiculous to say after he'd just knocked his father on his ass, but... "Because. As bad as it ever got, there was good in it. And we knew you'd do anything for us you could. So." He shrugged. "Dean."

Silence from John's quarter.

Sam jerked his head at the van. "We should go. Stubborn jerk's still headed east."

Nodding absently, John tossed the keys at Sam's chest. Sam caught them easily, and headed for the driver's side without looking up. John stopped a minute to watch him.

He knew the sweet-tempered baby, the innocent boy, the sullen teenager. He wasn't sure what to do with Sam now, a grown man with a new deep strength to go with the old spit and vinegar. And it had taken strength for Sam to swallow his pride and tell John that he understood.

Which was good. Dean would need that strength. Hell, John might need it before the end.

He couldn't pull the trigger on Dean. Couldn't put his own boy down in the dirt, like some fucking rabid dog. It'd be easier to. God, knowing what John knew of demons and the way they crept in the cracks of your mind, it might even be kinder. But this wasn't about kind or easy. It was about family.

Sam poked his head out of window. "Dad?"

Once, before Mary and their boys, John didn't know how much he'd come to see in that one word. He gave Sam a lopsided smile and climbed into the van. Pulling the door shut, he said, "You know, Sam?"

"Mm?"

"I really hated Palo Alto. Not Stanford," John added quickly as Sam glared. "Just the town. Fucking granola crunchy bullshit. I stopped at a bar, and ordered a beer. They offered me a vegan currant ale. How the hell is that beer?" John looked down, taking in the well worn jeans, flannel shirt. "Do I look like I even know what a currant is?"

Sam's mouth quirked a little, like he was trying not to laugh at his old man. "Did you try it?"

"Hell no."

"Good. Tasted like moldy sweatsocks." Sam grinned. "I always stuck with soda when I was there. Drove Jess crazy. I'd get home and down a six pack of Molson, which she'd remind me was more expensive than $1 tap night."

"Man was not meant to mix fruit in his beer," John said firmly. "Or chocolate, or any other things for that matter." He tilted his head at Sam. "Can't see you in there somehow."

To John's surprise, Sam's cheeks went pink. "I, um. Used to go there to hustle pool to earn a couple extra bucks."

"Seriously?" John couldn't have been more startled if Sam had announced he'd danced on the bar for tips. They'd taught the boy to hustle pool, and poker, and any number of tricks to use when between credit card frauds. But Sam, in his infinite Sam-ness, had always balked. "You?"

"Yeah."

"I'm so proud," John smirked. "My little boy, all grown up."

Sam smiled wryly. "Once a Winchester, always a Winchester, I guess," he offered, holding his breath to see if his father would take the... well, as close to an apology as Winchesters would give.

The smile slid from John's face, replaced by something almost tender. "Glad to hear that."

Date: 2006-05-28 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] janissa11.livejournal.com
Okay, you know, this was great and all, Sam and John making some much-needed interpersonal strides, but DEAN IS FUCKING LOSING IT, Y'ALL, YOU MIND GETTING BACK ON THE ROAD HERE? Before Dean-baby is gone forever? Before the demon EATS WHAT'S LEFT OF HIS BRAIN?

Holy SHIT, I want to strangle BOTH of them. Except not, because, aww, but ARGH!

Date: 2006-05-29 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alznthlay.livejournal.com
...*LOL*
Best. Comment. Ever.

Gaaarr...they're slowly killing us with building tension!

=(

Date: 2006-05-29 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
*laugh* We kind of figured that despite John's mini-freakout in their previous chapter, part of him is still quietly assuming that he'll catch up to Dean and find him hanging around in a bar somewhere, trying to get laid with his new "how I bound a demon, wanna kiss my scars?" story. Because Dean is lucky, damn it. (And, well, he didn't want to get into another car wreck when Sam punched him.)

Thanks! (I heart this fb, btw. It made us both grin.)

Date: 2006-05-28 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilmissfury.livejournal.com
"I'm so proud," John smirked. "My little boy, all grown up."

Oh god this line did things to me that I can't even explain. But then again it might be because my mom used it on me the first time I decked a guy for trying something I didn't want lol.

Okay so this part was very much in the vein of everything we know about Sam. I can really see him sending Dean away the first time because he didn't want anything to interfear in his new life.

To me Sam's very selfish this way, which isn't to say he's a bad person. Sam was always protected and given his way, so when Dean actually asks something of him that he doesn't want he goes back into that mode. You can actually see it in the series quite a bit especially in Scarecrow. But then again you see in the very next ep that the brother's would do anything for one another and you show this as well.

Date: 2006-05-29 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
I'm not sure whether I think Sam was protected necessarily (though yeah, Dean took a lot of Sam's crap for him and shielded him from a lot of the ugliness of a) their life as hunters and b) John's frustration, which let Sam kind of decide what degree of involvement he'd have in hunting and training), but yeah, he definitely has a different sense of what family means, whether they have a duty to hunt just because they know what's out there, etc. As you said (very well), Sam can be selfish and selfless within the same 20 minute span when it comes to his family.

Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staceey.livejournal.com
Damn fine chapter, those two needed to air everything out.

Date: 2006-05-29 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Yeah, Sam and John can really only have their moments after they've had their bitchfight.

Thanks!

Date: 2006-05-29 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squee1123.livejournal.com
Oh....yeesh..its jsut im all a jumble form this chapter because its just so much to take in.

DEEEAN. How on Earth is he going to react when they FINALLY catch up to him? When he sees little Sammy is most decidedly NOT dead. And...e took in demon powrs last time!

...this is going to break me

Date: 2006-05-29 08:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-05-29 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rio87.livejournal.com
"Man was not meant to mix fruit in his beer,"

ROLF I couldn't help but to picture John pouting at this line and it just destroyed me *continues giggling*

that was very much needed, since there certainly isn't going to be any room for laughing during next chapter

Date: 2006-05-29 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
We kind of try to keep the same snark to angst ratio as Kripke. *grin* Jury's out on whether it works, but we like to think so.

Thanks! I'm glad you like it.

Date: 2006-05-29 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
Dudes, I am freaking out here. This story (and your prolific output) is insane, and the tension's just ratcheting up...and GO FETCH DEAN NOW! I'm glad they got to talk (and of course it comes to blows when it's the Winchesters), and just love how Dean's all over this chapter even though he's not in it. Your OCs are excellent (I wouldn't mind reading an NC-17 take Dean/Katya Round 1 *puppyeyes*) and the pacing is great as always.

Can't wait for more!

Date: 2006-05-29 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
I wouldn't mind reading an NC-17 take Dean/Katya Round 1

Okay, that right there? Is a very nice thing to hear. Thank you. OCs, especially female OCs, can be really tricky, so I'm glad Katya worked for you. (And yeah, we may go there eventually, because Dean protests how little action of the horizontal kind he's gotten so far. *grin*)

Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellesgift.livejournal.com
Taking the excited sqeeing and "yay, yay, thank you!" for granted, I'll just mention how surprised I am to be enjoying the interactions between Sam and John so much. I mean, nothing exactly *wrong* with a nice jelly sandwich, but the peanutbutter is missing, you know? (oh, who am I kidding? Dean is both the peanutbutter AND the jelly, so what we have here is basically a bread sandwich. Mmmmyum.)

But you know, from that first chapter when Sam almost crosses the line in fighting with John (which, you know, *would* have been unforgivable assuming Dean was dead because much as I think John deserved it...man, you can't do that to him before he's even buried his son. No.) But I loved the way that Dean was almost present in his absence, and Sam was waiting for Dean to stop him. And ever since then, I've been loving watching John and Sam dance around the ghost of the missing peacemaker.

But. That said. Bread sandwich, folks. And peanutbutter-and-jelly gets messy without its rightful casing. Not that I'm adverse to licking Dean off my fingers...um...okay, never mind. Loving your story. Will hold milk analogy, too. :-) THANKS for continued great reading!!!

Date: 2006-05-29 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
I think that may be my favorite metaphor for Sam, Dean and John ever. And I'm glad the sort of "presence in absence" you mentioned works, because we were aiming for that. Dean is so much the mediator in that family when Sam and John are together, and Sam and John are still occasionally falling back into the pre-crash dynamics of *snipe, snipe, bicker* without anyone there to make them knock it off.

Thanks!

Date: 2006-05-29 04:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mellaithwen
*flails in the corner*

and dude loved the little backstory with Amanda, and then comparing to Dean, and Sam calling Elkins an ass hole and SAM FIGHTING JOHN :O um yeah...y'all gots to find Dean cos demon-dude like has him...and it ain't good, so less bonding more hunting! To the car! Pronto!

Date: 2006-05-29 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Flailing! Yay! *laugh* Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alznthlay.livejournal.com
Ohhh the Sinclair stuff is now aired...and Dean thinks Sam's dead still and...just...the Sam and John clashing...and..

I love you both.

Even if you are slowly turning me insane with the horrors of tension... :P

Date: 2006-05-29 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
*grin* Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djinanna.livejournal.com
Awwwww.... Bonding moment!

Looks like Sam and John are getting their mutual shit together. Now go save Dean!

Because OMG zombies! I *hate* zombies. They are the worst, all stinky and crumbly and ... *ick* Zombies are to me what snakes are to Indiana Jones. *shudder* And Dean! Oh no, go find Dean - *somebody* rescue Dean. 'Cause the *zombies* are coming! *shudder*

Er. ::sheepish grin:: Got caught up in the moment there.

The story of Amanda Sinclair was perfect. Horrific. Terrible. Understandable. It explains so much about what's going on with the other hunters. And why they'd be particularly concerned about Dean flipping out.

And I can't help thinking that mostly Dean would hate being compared to Lara Croft - but there'd be just a little bit of him, buried deep inside, that would be all smug because Lady Croft kicks ass and so does he.

>>"Man was not meant to mix fruit in his beer," John said firmly. "Or chocolate, or any other things for that matter."<<

*hee* Not a beer drinker here - in fact, I hate the stuff (and yes, I've tried all different kinds at the "subtle" urging of friends) - but yet I totally sympathize with John here. See, that's how I feel about tea and coffee and chocolate. Man (and woman) were not meant to mix fruit with naturally caffeinated products.

Back to the Sinclair story - John's empathy for Amanda, and how he personally made sense of her craziness (since even crazy people have reasons for what they do, even if they make sense only to them) by relating her POV to Mary's when pregnant, helped me like John a little better. In fact, I've been liking John pretty well throughout this fic, even though I'm not particularly enamoured of his character. Really nice POV work there. It doesn't even matter if John was correct in his thoughts about Amanda's motivations, just that he had the thoughts.

And I just wanna end with *flail* OMG - ZOMBIES!!!! Save Dean! Save Dean from the ZOMBIES!!!!! *flail*

Date: 2006-05-29 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Dude, zombies freak me out. I love zombie movies, but zombie end of the world scenarios are my one recurring nightmare. So, yeah, hearing you there.

The hunter community (such as it is) is one of the most interesting parts of the show for me, because what we've seen of it so far casts the Winchesters in different ways. What with Bobby threatening to shoot John, the mentioned rift between John and Elkins... we got the feeling that John's a hardass even among other hunters, and that there really hasn't been any mentions of other hunters who were raised and trained like Sam or Dean were. And I forgot where I was going with that ramble, but, yeah. We thought of the "a little more tequila, a little less hunting" comment Sam made about Max, and went with it from the hunting rather than psychic angle. Dean is to Amanda as Sam was to Max.

Beer equals yuck. But I can't see John ordering anything but beer or hard manly liquor, like Jack/Jim/Jose.

I'm glad to hear that John's working for you in the fic, even if he's not your favorite. Thank you, and thank you for the great fb!

Date: 2006-05-30 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djinanna.livejournal.com
Because there are so few regular characters on the show (really only Sam and Dean because John is more present in his absence, and to some extent that's true even with the episodes he appears in), the hunter community draws one's attention. Well, if one has fannish tendencies, anyway, as we're all about the sinking into (and manipulating) canon. And the best part of the canon is usually the characters and their relationships.

(Note (1) This comment is brought to you by sweeping generalizations. (2) Half-way through the preceeding paragraph, I was struck by the near-irresistable *need* to go back and amend my parenthetical comment to include the Impala as one of the regular characters. *whimpers*)

The reason I talked about John is because I'm actually *liking* John in this story. That doesn't usually happen.

You're welcome for the feedback and thank you for the compliment. Usually I'm terrible about remembering to leave feedback, but once it a while my lazy procrastinating tendencies are overcome by a story. And once the ice is broken, my other tendency (the babbling one) takes over.

And now, I'm off to read the new chapter. ::is nervous because OMG zombies!!!::

Date: 2006-05-29 07:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That was good and they needed to clear the air butI feel more worried about Dean than they seem at this point. Dean needs help and fast, I'm fidgeting waiting to find out how Dean's getting on.

Date: 2006-05-29 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
I figure that despite John being spooked in Seattle, he's still quietly convinced that he'll find Dean waiting for them in a bar somewhere, drinking a beer, a little worse for wear but basically okay. Because that's what Dean's always done before. John's confidence in Dean's competence is keeping John sane. Also, he isn't exactly known for being rational when it comes to fighting with Sam.

Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muffaletta.livejournal.com
You really captured the screwed up family dynamics in this chapter: Sam and John really love Dean but with their respective histories of abandoning him, it's no wonder Dean is so afraid he'll end up alone. I especially liked that you tackled Sam's decision to cut Dean out of his life when he was at Stanford. There was no reason for that-and now Sam wonders why Dean hates when he talks about going back to school? Hello? I agree that these things needed to be aired, to help focus John and Sam on what they now want to do differently. And although the timing may not have been the best, with the way you're both ratching up the action, there might be even less opportunity in future chapters.

Can't wait until they catch up with Dean!

Date: 2006-05-29 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
We figured the timing was a) general Winchester argument timing, which is usually pretty spesh, and b) John overestimating Dean's luck. But yeah, they needed to be solid before they can even hope to deal with Dean right now.

Thank you! I appreciate the great fb.

Date: 2006-05-29 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolimir-k.livejournal.com
I love the bonding moment here with John and Sam...and learning about Amanda.

Loving this, but you knew that already. *eg*

Date: 2006-05-29 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 01:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phantomas.livejournal.com
Adding my comment to the others...wow. Love how John and Sam interact when Dean's not around (ie. fight it out until the next time *G*)
Great chapter :)
*bites nails waiting for the rest*

Date: 2006-05-29 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
*grin* Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-29 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marinarusalka.livejournal.com
Love the bonding between John and Sam here (how typical that every little bit of progress in their relationship requires a fight first), and the backstory on Sinclair. But you have me so wound up with this fic that I can't read any John and Sam chapter without some part of me screaming, "OMGDEAN!!!! Find him! Help him!" Which is a tribute to your writing, of course.

God, I love this story.

Date: 2006-05-29 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
That's Winchester bonding at its best, really.

Thanks!

Date: 2006-05-29 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellesgift.livejournal.com
Oh, and by the way...the diner? Killed me but good. Sheesh, the things we do to the people we love. (Here I'm talking you two and your readers, but I guess it applies to the Winchester boys, too. :-)

Date: 2006-05-29 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'm glad that worked, figuring it was another extension of Sam and John taking Dean's ability to tolerate their respective BS for granted. And, yeah, that whole family can damage you without even meaning to thing.

Thanks!

Date: 2006-05-29 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carson-leigh.livejournal.com
What a wonderful part. John and Sam bonding was really needed and the fight was expected. I did start to yell Dean needs you, get your asses in gear!

Date: 2006-05-29 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
*grin* Thanks!

Date: 2006-05-29 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damerel.livejournal.com
Aaarrrgghhh!!! The tension, it burns us! Ok, I'm trying to control myself long enough to type something relatively coherent: this is fabulous! Wonderful! Frabjous, indeed! They're all such Winchesters when it comes to talking about their feelings, aren't they?

My heart hurts for the Stanford episode; I felt so, so bad for Dean, but more slowly realised how unhappy Sam must have been for so long to have done such a thing. Possibly, anyway.

It's lovely to see these two beginning to find some common ground without Dean making it for them, but can I just encourage, oh so gently, them to now get their arses in gear and get out there and FIND DEAN!

Thank you. :)

Date: 2006-05-29 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Yeah, Sam was pretty well frustrated and hurt by John by the time he made that call, and Dean's loyalty towards John only helped to drive the wedge further in.

Thank you!

Date: 2006-05-30 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mar9en.livejournal.com
"Man was not meant to mix fruit in his beer,"

Heh. Good chapter, I liked it. :)

Date: 2006-06-11 04:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jellicle.livejournal.com
You know, I cried, I seriously cried during the two Winchester fight. Because anyone who hurts Dean hurts me in the process.

Date: 2006-06-23 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snookscribbles.livejournal.com
Came through [livejournal.com profile] phantomas's rec and I'm loving it!

The dialog, plot development, characterization - all ring so wonderfully true.

And I gotta say, the idea of Sam hustling pool in Palo Alto just makes me melt.

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