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[nilchance]

I briefly thought Castiel was played by Jamie Bamber. *facepalm* But OH, omnomnom Misha, with his crazy eyes and his handprint on Dean's arm. My current theory, ready to be Kripke'd? He's related to Mary. Uncle Castiel! Keeping it all in the family!

"You're the closest thing to a father I have." Yeah. My thoughts on this are complicated and not at all shallow. At first, I figured the caveat was, y'know, ALIVE. And then, well. I have thoughts about the common perception of "fatherly" behavior and how Bobby fits it while John, less so, and why that still makes me heart John. Also, I'm wondering if at some point we're going to see Dean ask Castiel where John IS, exactly. Is he in heaven? IS there a heaven? Is he with Mary? Is he (pet theory) waiting around on this plane to watch over his boys?

Miiiiishaaaaa. If I have a Misha/Jeff/Jensen thought, well. You didn't see it here.

Oh, Bobby. I find it interesting that, without layers, Bobby is whipcord skinny. And that the older male hunters we've seen (John, Bobby, Elkins) all bulk themselves up with plaid flannel.

Oh, SAM. *facepalm* If a demon wants you to do it, and it feels good, and it involves lying to Dean straight out of hell? It's a BAD IDEA. Also, you look like you need a long hot shower in lye.

Pamela, omnomnomnom.

Gratuitous half-naked Jensen! And he didn't have to remove an ear this time.

"We have work for you." = callback to "we have work to do." Y/N?

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[darktouch.livejournal.com]

Old School angel is that Angels are Angels and humans are humans.. humans got the benefit of free will and angels got jealous and staged a coup. The rebellious angels lost and were banished to hell. I've seen more recent theories that the angels who didn't choose a side ended up on earth as their punishment but I'm not sure how cannonical (heh) that is.

In the Supernatural mythology, it has been established that when you go to hell, your soul rots and then you forget and then you become a demon. So the human soul = demon given the right circumstance. Carrying that through, a human who goes to heaven may very well find that they've forgotten humanity as well after enough time. God = Crack.

Supernatural girls who die early sounds more like one of the variations on the daughters of Lilith where 1000 of them were doomed to die each day that Lilith didn't turn back to God.. so there were a lot of them dieing all the time.

[jedi-diplomat.livejournal.com]

I've seen more recent theories that the angels who didn't choose a side ended up on earth as their punishment but I'm not sure how cannonical (heh) that is.

I think that's the plot of "The Prophecy." Thanks for all the info, I knew some of the angel mythology but not the part about Lilith. Can I have recs and/or links of where you got your info? I'm seriously facinated by the old school mythology.

[darktouch.livejournal.com]

Naw, "The Prophesy" was about "Heaven War II" where as the Lucipher defection was "Heaven War I". Thinking about it now, I think the 'stuck in the middle' theory came from the Shades of Divinity (http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showbook&bookid=2156) RPG. It had a truely aweful system but the backstory was fun to read.

Honestly, pretty much everything I have came out of Wikipedia. Specifically the Nephilim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim), Grigori (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori), and Lilith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith) entries. If you want to get really ancient though, there is a wealth of information under the entry for Elohim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim) specifically relating to the plurality of the word (making it analagous to 'pantheon' and Ancient Semetic Religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic_religion) where it goes into the nitty gritty of the multiple gods that the isrealites worshipped before they were 'jewish'. Add in some of the 'down the page' information from the Yahweh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh) entry and you get the a picture of Yahweh rising to prominence and taking El's possition. Similar in some ways to Zeus taking over from Chronos.