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I briefly thought Castiel was played by Jamie Bamber. *facepalm* But OH, omnomnom Misha, with his crazy eyes and his handprint on Dean's arm. My current theory, ready to be Kripke'd? He's related to Mary. Uncle Castiel! Keeping it all in the family!

"You're the closest thing to a father I have." Yeah. My thoughts on this are complicated and not at all shallow. At first, I figured the caveat was, y'know, ALIVE. And then, well. I have thoughts about the common perception of "fatherly" behavior and how Bobby fits it while John, less so, and why that still makes me heart John. Also, I'm wondering if at some point we're going to see Dean ask Castiel where John IS, exactly. Is he in heaven? IS there a heaven? Is he with Mary? Is he (pet theory) waiting around on this plane to watch over his boys?

Miiiiishaaaaa. If I have a Misha/Jeff/Jensen thought, well. You didn't see it here.

Oh, Bobby. I find it interesting that, without layers, Bobby is whipcord skinny. And that the older male hunters we've seen (John, Bobby, Elkins) all bulk themselves up with plaid flannel.

Oh, SAM. *facepalm* If a demon wants you to do it, and it feels good, and it involves lying to Dean straight out of hell? It's a BAD IDEA. Also, you look like you need a long hot shower in lye.

Pamela, omnomnomnom.

Gratuitous half-naked Jensen! And he didn't have to remove an ear this time.

"We have work for you." = callback to "we have work to do." Y/N?

Date: 2008-09-22 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nilchance.livejournal.com
Yeah. I'm figuring if that is the case, maybe Mary was always an angel (of the fallen variety? A Grigori?) who chose to stay with John? IDK, it's my cracked out pet theory.

What about the Nephilim? I thought those were supposedly the giants born from angel/human mating. And, well, Sam is kinda giant.

Date: 2008-09-22 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedi-diplomat.livejournal.com
Nephilim!! That's the term I was looking for.

Date: 2008-09-23 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona1347.livejournal.com
Not that I've done preliminary research since, oh, season 2 for an epic mythology-fic that I'll never write...

This is from Genesis.
"Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. [...] The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. [bold-face is obvs mine]

Now in Ethiopian Biblical canon, there's the Book of Enoch, considered Apocrypha by the western churches, and we have this:

And it came to pass, after the children of men had increased in those days, beautiful and comely daughters were born to them. 2. And the angels, the sons of the heavens, saw and lusted after them, and said one to another: “Behold, we will choose for ourselves wives from among the children of men, and will beget for ourselves children.”

Same general idea, right? BUT. Then right after that, they talk about this whole begating giants with human women thing for a while and THEN, literally right after, we get this:

And Azâzêl taught mankind to make swords and knives and shields and coats of mail, and taught them to see what was behind them, and their works of art: bracelets and ornaments, and the use of rouge, and the beautifying of the eye-brows, and the dearest and choicest stones and all coloring substances and the metals of the earth. And there was great wickedness and much fornication, and they sinned, and all their ways were corrupt.

CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER, NO?

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